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| Columbia is not so far. We will see you on Shabbat |
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| Danny, when you have a son of your own, you will raise him in silence |
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| A father has a right to raise his son in his own way, Reuven |
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| Yes. Though I do not care for it at all |
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| What kind of way is that to raise a son? |
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| It is perhaps the only way to raise a tzaddik |
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| "Reuven. I didn't have to raise you that way. I am not a tzaddik" |
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| I ask you to forgive me my anger at your father's Zionism. I read his speech. I found my own meaning for my brother's death for the death of the six million. I found it in God's will wich I didn't presume to understand. I did not I did not find it in a Jewish state that doesn't follow God and his Torah. My brother the others they could not could not have died for such a state. Forgive me your fathe rit was too much too much |
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| Daniel Forgive me for everything I have done. A-a wiser, father may have done differently. I am not wise." |
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| Today is the Festival of Freedom. Today my Daniel is free I must go . I am very tired. I must lie down |
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| "you think I was cruel? Yes, I see from your eyes that you think I was cruel to my daniel. perhaps. but he has learned. let my daniel become a psychologist. I know he wishes to become a psychologist. I do not see his books? I did not see the leters from the universities? I do not see his eyes? I do not hear his soul crying? Of course I know. For a long time I have known. Let my daniel become a psychologist. I have no more fear now. All his lefe he will be a tzaddik. He will be a tzaddik for the world. And the world needs a tzaddik |
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| Reuven you and yuour fauther were a blessing to me. The master of the universe snet you to mys on. he sent you when my son wa ready to rebel. he sent you to listen to my son's words. he sent you to be my closed eyes to listen to my son's words. I looked at your soul, reuven, not your mind. In your father's writings I looked at his soul,not his mind. I fyou had not found the gematriya mistake, Reuven, it would have made a difference? nO. The gemitrya mistake only told me you had a good mind. But your soul Iknew already. I knew it when my daniel came home and told me he wanted to be your friend. Ah you should have seen his eyes that day. You should have heard his voice. What an effort it was for him to talk to me. but he talked. I knew your soul, reuven, before I knew your mind or your face. A thousand times I have thanked the master of the universe that he sent you and your father to my son |
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| You don't understand that do you? |
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| You ahve to want to listen to it, and then you can hear it, it has a strange beautfiul texture. It doesn't always talk, siomtime-sometimes it cries, and you can hear the pain of th world in it. It hurts to listen to tit htne. but you have to. |
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| I don't understand that at all |
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| There's more trth to that than your ealize. You can listen to silence, REuven. I've begun to realize that you can listen to sielnce and learn from it. I t has a quality and a dimesnion allits own. It talks to me sometimes. I fele myself alive in it. IT talks. And I can hear it. |
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| I can't get over your becoming a psychologist |
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| I always thought that logic and theology were like David and Saul. |
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| I can't get over yhour becoming a rabbi |
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| Oh many kinds. A lot of it is still very experimental. |
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| The day I receive my smicha. Smicha is the Hebrew term for rabbinic ordination. |
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| Maybe. But psychoanalysis is only one form of therapy. There are many other kinds |
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| Well, it's the same as the difference between theoretical and applied physics, say. The experimental psychologist is more or less the theoretician; the clinical psychologist appleis what the experimentalist learns. He gets to work with people. He examines them, tests them, diagnoses them, even treats them. |
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| Well, well Goodbye Freud. |
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| No, It's not goodbye Freud. Freud was a genius. But he was too circumspect in his findings. I want to know a lot more than just things Freud dealt with. Freud never really did nothing with perception, for example. Or with learning. Howe people see hear, touch, smell, taste and learn is a fascinating subject. Freud never went into any of that. But he was a genius, all right, in what he did go into. |
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| I don't think so. I want to work with people, not with rats and mazes. I talked to Appleman about it. He suggested I go into clinical psychology |
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| They bother me sometimes. The doctor says it's nervous tension. |
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| It's good to have you back |
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| You and your crazy way of hitting a baseball. You and your father with his crazy silences and explosions |
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| "Reuven, the silence between Danny and Reb Saunders. It is continuing? |
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| I think it's crazy and sadistic. And I don't like your father at all. |
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| Welcome back to the land of the living |
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| Now that you understand, I will call on you very often. I have been waiting all year to see how god a teacher your father is. He is a great teacher and a great scholar. It is a joy toot listen to you. But you must not use this method in my class. You understand? |
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| "Your father is a good teacher. You are blessed to have such a father |
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| I must ask you never to use such a method of explanation in my class. I am myself not opposed to such a method. But I must ask you never to use it in my class. Do you understand me? |
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| "Reuven, tell me, how would you father have answered my question? |
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| "You do not know how your father would have explained the inyan? |
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| "Your father is a great scholar. A very grest scholar |
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| You studied the inyan alone? |
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| My father is in the hospital |
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| He's better now. He had a heart attack. |
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| You studied the inyan by yourself, Reuven? |
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| "no one can explain it. The truth is , I can't explain it myself. It is a difficult inyan. A very difficult inyan. A teacher can also sometimes not know." |
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| YOu cannot explain it, Reuven? |
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| It is a very difficult inyan. and the commentaries. rishonim do not help us. Tell me Reuven, how do you explain the inyan? |
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| Reuven the fanaticism fo men like REb Saunders kept us alive for two thousand yers of exile. If the jews of Palestine have an ounce of that same fanaticism and use it wisely we will soon have a Jewish state |
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| I don't understand it abba. In a million years I'll never understand it. He let Danny read al the books I gave him, he let us be friends all thse years even though he knew I was yours on. Now he breaks us up over this. I just don't understand it. |
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| Reuven, what went on between you and Danny all those years was private. Who realy knew? It was probably not difficult for REb Suanders to answer question from his followers, assuming there were any questions, which I doubt, simply by saying that I was at least an observer of the Commandments. But he has no answer anymore to my Zionism. Waht can he tell shis hpeople now? NOthing. He had to do what he did. How could he let you continue to be friends? I am sorry I was the cause of it. i brought you together, an dnow i ma the cause of your eparation. I am deeply sorry |
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| It won't make me love running rats through mazes.But at least he's sympathetic. He's a really fine person. |
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| If I ever get to love experimental psychology after this book I'll assume the messiah has come. |
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| Experimental psychology. I know nothing about it. |
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| Professor Appleman sounds a lot like Professor Flesser |
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| Not now Reuven. It is too late, and I am tired. You should go to sleep soon. Take advantage of the nights when you have no schoolwork |
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| I think I had better really go home. It's late. I'll meet your in front of your shyul Saturday morning |
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| I don't know a thing about Freudians. But I do know a lot about inductive logic. One of these days remind me to give you a lecture on inductive logic. If the Freudians-. |
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| About what? About freud? The onte time I mentioned a Freudian theory in class, all I got ouf of Appleman was that dogmatic psychoanalysis was related to psycholgoy as magic was related to science. Dogmatic freudians. |
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| I don't know anything about the problem of induction. That's your department. Appleman said something else, though, that made a lof of sense to me. He admitted that Freud was a genius and a cautious scientist, but he said that freud evolved a thoery of behavior based only on the study of abnormal cases. He said that experimental psychology was interested in applying the methodology of the natural scieinces to discover how all human beings behaved. It didn't generalize about personality behavior only on the basis of a certain segment of people. that makes a lot of sense. |
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| Fine. My young logician is satisfied. Good. Let ustak of happier things. I did not tell you that I saw Jack Rose yesterday. He gave me a thousand-dolar check for the Jewish National Fund. |
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| Are you angry at me,Reuven? |
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| I didn't want to sound morbid. I only wanted to tel you that I am doing things I consider very important now. If I could not do these things, my life would have no value,. Merely to live, merely to exist-what sense is there to it? A fly also lives. |
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| I was a little too blunt. I am sorry. I didn't mean to hurt you. |
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| I will live for many more years with God's help. Between my son and my doctor, I will probably live to be a very old man. |
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| He said to Moses You have toiled and labored now you are worthy of rest. |
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